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  • Is there such a thing as being addicted to steroids? -- Please Help Me!!!

    I need help!  My little brother who is now 28 years old, has been using steroids (for bodybuilding) for the last 10 yrs.  His family, including his wife of 1 1/2 yrs. are extremely concerned about his health.  He is often moody and has become extremely selfish lately.

    Can anyone help?  How do we help him?  THANK YOU!

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  • Some ideas for you........

    http://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/steroids-anabolic

     

    Welcome to the forum.............now back to YOUR questions.  "Can anyone help?  and How do we help him?"

    Addiction is often referred to as "an obsession of the mind."  Getting someone to end his obsession and, often, physical dependency is a job for the support groups and professionals: sometimes one or both are needed to break the vicious cycle.

    The part where you ask, "How do we help him?" is a conundrum that most families face and try to deal with.  In our family, we used threats, tears, ultimatums and eventually interventions.  Our beloved addicts went to rehab twice and finally embraced recovery (not just getting clean) when they joined AA and NA and got themselves sponsors.  We were powerless against their drugs and finally sought out support for our own post traumatic stress (i.e., grief, fear, anger, etc.) and found Nar-Anon Family Groups.

    I would like to invite you, and the rest of the family, to join us!

    Nar-Anon Family Groups: www.nar-anon.org

    Nar-Anon Family Forum: http://www.naranon.com/forum

     

     

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  • What is your suggestion for treatment, then?

    Just wondering.

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  • If he's willing to accept help..............

    "Addiction is often referred to as "an obsession of the mind." Getting someone to end his obsession and, often, physical dependency is a job for the support groups and professionals: sometimes one or both are needed to break the vicious cycle."
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    FOR HIM:

    Ask if he's willing to accept help.

    He can try NA and get himself a sponsor, he can learn more about it: www.na.org

    If he has insurance, he can try one of Dr. Phil's favs: Origins or LaHacienda treatment centers in Texas.

    If he has no insurance, he can call Teen Challenge (adult program), Salvation Army Adult Rehab, Cenikor or DayTop.

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    FOR YOUR FAMILY

    Nar-Anon Family Groups: www.nar-anon.org

    Nar-Anon Family Forum: http://www.naranon.com/forum

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  • Re: What is your suggestion for treatment, then?

    Posted By: CynthiaB
    Just wondering.
    Personally, I used Rational Recovery. It took 8 days and it was over and I knew it was over. Many other people are using SMART, and the Sinclair Method in conjunction with Naltrexone has a 78% verifiable success rate. Many people like the idea of the Sinclair Method as people can continue to drink, they just will not do so to alcoholic levels.

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  • Re: Is there such a thing as being addicted to steroids? -- Please Help Me!!!


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  • I would think Intervention would take him

    as the steroid angle could open a whole new market for the industry they promote. It would be inventing a whole new 'disease' that could warrant a lifetime of treatment.

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  • the orange papers...

    A very misleading and faulty rant by some guy with a big grudge against aa - have a look at this website which tears orange papers to pieces: www.green-papers.org

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  • Re: the orange papers...

    Posted By: stevenhalling
    A very misleading and faulty rant by some guy with a big grudge against aa - have a look at this website which tears orange papers to pieces: www.green-papers.org

    I would certainly encourage people to read both the green papers and the orange papers, to make their own decision on which they feel is credible. The green papers cite 5 references while orange cites over 200, so it well worth someones time to check them both out and decide for themselves.

    Since most people outside the AA faith prefer to learn how to think, rather than what to think, the readers can make up their own minds.

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  • DeConstructor...wow...

    DeConstructor...wow...I'm going to post some comments here that I'm quite confident you won't take into consideration but hoping that someday, somehow, a light will turn on in your mind and reality will be a possibility for you.

    You are clearly still very sick, potentially more so than the addicts on the show, because you are allowing your mind to be held prisoner by your addiction and the treatment of your addiction. Maybe you are sober and even have substantial sober time under your belt but you certainly aren't free of addiction. It still clearly consumes you, 700+ posts about it...don't you see that as a problem? Whatever method you choose to help you become sober is 100% your choice and it's also a choice that all struggling addicts must make. The goal at the end of the day is the same: get sober and stay sober, period. That's the most important goal and it doesn't really matter how an addict does it as long as they do it. Some programs work for some addicts and some don't. You are completely missing the point because you clearly don't understand how this works. What do you care if people go to AA? Is anyone making you go to AA? Why don't you clean up your own backyard first and once you've done that you can work on your neighbor's.

    You should value yourself and your time enough to go out and live a great life because what you are doing here is pointless, you can't convince everyone of your beliefs, it's just not realistic. You are wasting your time, please, just drop it and go live your life! Good luck to you!

    P.S. Oh, and one last point...Addiction is most certainly, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, in no uncertain terms, a disease. No one chooses that life and, if you are an addict, you'd already know that.

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    "Addiction is most certainly, 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, in no uncertain terms, a disease."

    Sorry, no; the professionals continue to argue whether it is or not. Many of the ones that call it a disease, call it a "brain disease", like depression or schizophrenia, not cancer.

    Addiction: New research suggests it's a choice
    Drug or alcohol addiction is not a disease, says Harvard psychologist, but a matter of free will:
    http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/26/addiction-new-research-suggests-its-a-choice/

    I'm going to address your calling DeCon sick because I've been at this for 10 years, arguing with people promoting 12step treatment/programs.

    AA does not improve on the rate of natural remission while raising the mortality rate, it has a 95% dropout rate in the first year. Over 60% of all newcomers arrive under mandates from the courts, government agencies, or employee assistance programs.

    Here is a list of 48 alcohol treatment methods, ranked by effectiveness. Note that 12step facilitation and AA are rated 37th and 38th:
    http://www.behaviortherapy.com/whatworks.htm

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  • thanks for posting

    Hi Raysny,

     

    "Addiction: New research suggests it's a choice

    Drug or alcohol addiction is not a disease, says Harvard psychologist, but a matter of free will:
    http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/26/addiction-new-research-suggests-its-a-choice/"

     

    Thanks for posting this.  I enjoyed the read.

     

    It's consistent with much of what i believe.

     

    regards,

     

    tacks

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  • addiction

    My addict son who has been clean for almost a year is still a worry.  As a parent its a 24/7 job.  We do all we can...they "seem" better, yet have a life...and we worry.

    He actually died of a herion overdose a year ago in october 2011. Luckily someone found him and saved him.  He's good...seems to be..got a job, sees his daugter..does chores around the house..and spends 95% of his time home.  Yet we still worry...once an addict..........always an addict.

    We need to belive in them..its hard.  We know what they are..been there done it..AWFUL.

    Sad,,,they will never be the same as we knew and trusted.  sadder for them they will never know if they will ever be ok.

    A Mother.

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