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    First, God forbid you should ever need it.  I do.  For those who think it is cute to park in the handicapped parking because you are too lazy to walk a couple of feet - thank god you can walk.  Some of us can't walk or it is very very painful to walk.  We NEED those places available when we are looking for one.  We  may have to leave and go home without our groceries or medicine or something else we need because YOU took the handicapped space.  Even if you are "only going in for a minute" that is NO excuse.  Parking in handicapped parking when you don't need to is the ultimate in selfishness. 

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    Glad you said something. My mother wishes that the police in the Dallas area would actually enforce the Handicapped parking spots. They have all kinds of "parking fines" for the handicapped, but yet whenever she needs a spot (and she has polio, is almost 60, and uses a wheel chair once she is inside a store), there's none to be found - no tags on the plates and no temp tags in the windows. And these kids are using their mom's tags left and right. I love that the Detroit crew actually drives around the city and tickets folks not just on the city streets - they get em for blocking side walks, and in handicapped at the quick stop. Glad to see someone doing something about it. You hear the citizens complaining that the city does it only because they are broke. But I WISH they would do at least a little of that around here. The one time I got booted and towed - was for parking in a private parking lot when I went to a club and didn't see the sign. It was totally my fault. And it was a mess to get the car out.

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    Not only do I wish that the handicapped parking would be enforced here also! I am younger but I also have lung failure so I may not look like I would actually need a handicapped parking space ( so please do not ask me WHY am I parking in handicapped parking), but there is one thing that makes me even more crazy. There are many times that I am going grocery shopping and all the handicapped parking spaces are full, but there will be someone sitting in the drivers seat waiting for whoever is in the store. People, if you are dropping someone off to go shopping and are just waiting for them PLEASE PLEASE do not park in those spots even if you do have a handicapped tag. There is no reason that you can't park a few spaces away and drive up to pick up the person you are waiting for.

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    I have been disabled since 1982. If someone without a handicapped parking placard is illegally parked in a handicapped space, I simply block them in and call the police and wait with my phone video cam running. You should see the rants I have on tape. I also make sure I get the tag, car and sign on tape. I have shown these videos to judges and gotten the book thrown at these morons. Talking to these selfish, self-centered morons will not work. They know what they do is wrong. Catch them in the act, have them fined and show up for court to show the judge what they did and how they thwart the law. Make the judge MAD AS HELL! It works.

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  • HANDICAPPED PARKING

    All good posts. Just to add, I use a mobility scooter. If people want me to drive on the side walks then put INCLINES at all the block ends. Trust me the scooters dont fly so if I cant get to the side walk I will drive in the street. And we know how safe THAT is!

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    I understand what you all are saying. I have PAD and COPD [among other things] to look at me I look healthy as a horse, but I'm unable to want more than a few yars at a time with out stopping to either get my breath or to stop my legs from giving out on me. So always remember just because a person doesn't look disabled doesn't mean that they aren't. MamaThunder - Dallas is really bad about not inforcing things that are inconviniant for them. I live in Lancaster so I go to Dallas quite often.

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    I myself being disabled with ra find it hard at times to even find an open spot. When I can walk without alot of pain I leave the spots for folks that are worse off then I am.I must use a lift chair at home to get up and could never get up from the ground if I fell. I do see folks that use handicap spots while waiting for their mates at times and see lots of folks with the placecards that seem to walk just fine.I also see lots of very heavy folks using them as well.I can't say that they are handicapped or not.Even on my bad days if I can leave a spot closer to store open I will.When it snows out I  can't even get out of a car on the slick stuff cause they don't clear the snow from where my feet must try to get up from.Frown I don't judge those that use the spots cause I'm not sure if they are handicapped or are normals just using someones parking placecard.I'm in my early 50's and had both knees and a hip replaced so ear.With RA I'll just get worse and need more replacement parts ,oh well ty for letting me post here.

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    New Hampshire has the right idea when it comes to abuse of handicap parking.  There anyone can take a picture of a violator that clearly shows them in the spot and that the spot is clearly marked and give it to police.  The picture is then used as evidence in court making it impossible to get away with.  I live in ny and here if you park in a spot without a permit you get a ticket but you have to go before a judge to respond to it.  i think its great so the judge can actually tell these people a thing or 2 and since traffic court is always busy the reprocussions cost alot more time than you could have saved by parking illegally in the first place.

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    I hate the rude ppl who have the balls to leave a note on a car (or make comments to someones face or get angry in car, etc) of someone who is handicapp and has a handicapp sticker (or handicapp license plate/plastic card hanger sticker/etc.). They curse and insult a persons appearance (esp when someone looks to have weight issues) and think just cuz u dont look like you are handicapp means you dont have right to park where you did. How the heck do they know if you don't have something wrong with you. How do they know if all the ppl in the car are handicapp or just some etc. Some ppl have lung problems (and not from being a smoker or used to be smoker) and other issues. Just cuz one isnt in a wheel chair doesnt mean they don't have health issues etc that warrent a handicapp sticker being issued to them by their doctor and the secetary of state and being to therefore park in handicapp spots legally. If nothing was wrong with the individual their doctor wouldnt of had them go to the secetary of state and the state wouldnt of issued someone a sticker. I do agree with another poster when they said somethng about someone parking in handicapp and sitting there waiting for someone to come out from being in store. Rather person waiting is handicapp or not they should just drop person off in front of the store and then find a regular parking spot nearest the store to wait for the person. So that someone who is handicapp and wants to go in the store can park in that spot. I too get annoyed though with ppl with no stickers/handicap cards/handicapp license plates that have nothing wrong with them and they still park in the spots just cuz they are lazy and dont want to walk a few more feet to the store.

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    Just a note about handicap parking. What most people don't realize, even legitimate users, is that handicap parking is not about the location but about accessibility or the ability of the user to get in and out of the vehicle at the spot. The user must be able to easily get the vehicle to and out of the spot , easily enter or exit the vehicle while in the spot and have easy access to a travel corridor from the spot. Proximity of the spot is only an issue if it is more than 200 feet away from the access point. A business with curb side spaces plus a parking lot is not required to have those handicap spots at curbside if a space in the lot is available within 200 feet. Most legal users think that handicap spots are supposed to be the closest spost possibe. that is not true. In many or most cases handicap spots are put closest to the building for convenience rather than requirement. Handicap spots are also required to be designated by both signs and markings on the parking surface but the temporary absence of one does not nullify the legitimacy of the spot or the responsibility of someone who illegally parks there. Federal standards do not grant any enforcement authority in regards to handicap parking. On the federal level It is a civil liberties violation that can only be enforced by legal action taken by an injured party. Most states and localities have adopted the ability to cite someone for a handicap parking violation of their own accord.

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    The police who do not cite people for parking in a handicapped parking spot are in most cases DOING THEIR JOBS. They are there to patrol and enforce the laws on the PUBLIC ROADWAYS. They are not parking policy enforcement for private businesses. Unless the parking lot is turned over to the town - which few towns will accept because they then get to pay to fix potholes, restripe, remove snow, etc - it is PRIVATE PROPERTY and the signs are "suggestions only". It is not the police departments job to enforce parking POLICIES (not laws) on private property. As for the person who claims that she blocks people with her vehicle etc - if you were to do that to me, you would be shot and I would NOT be charged. Unless you are a SWORN PEACE OFFICER, detaining ANYONE for anything other than an OBSERVED FELONY is kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment. People should learn about the supposed powers of "citizens arrest" - they do NOT extend to violations or misdemeanors. By "blocking" and detaining them you are committing a felony and as such the use of force, including deadly force is authorized. Incidentally - you know what annoys me - all the worthless "handicapped" people who take those spaces, then go in to spend MY TAX DOLLARS from their disability check.... I always see handicapped people parking in those spaces, then going to the beach - loaded down with coolers, fishing poles, barbecue grills, volleyballs, volleyball nets , scuba gear, sun tents, etc... Amazing how these handicapped people are able to carry a load to the beach that would break the back of the average SEAL team??? Then again when the lazy and worthless don't have to work they have lots of energy to play I suppose. if I had my way- most of these "disabled" people would be euthanized so they don't need to use the spaces. AMAZING how someone who has been "disabled since 1982" seems to be able bodied enough to provoke confrontations with other people - but too disabled to earn her own keep or to walk / roll from another parking space.

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    Kev made a good point. In most places parking lots are not within an Officer jurisdiction unless they are called for a complaint by the owner. However handicap spots are not just suggested. All businesses and public buildings are required by virtue of the ADA to provide handicap parking spaces There just are no enforcment provisions in the ADA. Technically the parking enforcement officer is not and agrieved party and under Federal Law (ADA) may not have and enforcement authority, but if the jurisdiction passed its own laws for handicap parking it has some authority. With todays technology Handicap placards should have a photo ID on them.

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  • Handicapped Parking

    I would like to remind in the mater of Handicapped Parking there is also the matter of handicapped access. There have been occasion when I could not enter or leave because someone has parked in front of the handicapped access ramp. People often use as their excuse that they only were there for a few minutes. Am I supposed to wait until they are done with their shopping and make free the handicapped access point? I don't have time to waste sitting around waiting to go into a store or leave a store. My favorite handicapped parking story is the one that happened a few days ago. I was leaving a laundromat when I observed a car parked in the handicapped space illegally. Can you imagine them using an excuse that they only meant to be in there a few minutes. I have yet to see anyone who is parked illegally in a handicapped place where they for only a few minutes. I would like to know how a person can use their phone to take a picture of the person who has parked illegally in a handicapped space and what to do with that picture so we can harm them in their most sensitive area, their pocket book.

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    Yes, how many pocket books have literally gone poof!! Because they've gotten a hefty fine for the illegal parking?? Good, i' m glad!!

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  • Re: Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

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    New Hampshire has the right idea when it comes to abuse of handicap parking.  There anyone can take a picture of a violator that clearly shows them in the spot and that the spot is clearly marked and give it to police.  The picture is then used as evidence in court making it impossible to get away with.  I live in ny and here if you park in a spot without a permit you get a ticket but you have to go before a judge to respond to it.  i think its great so the judge can actually tell these people a thing or 2 and since traffic court is always busy the reprocussions cost alot more time than you could have saved by parking illegally in the first place.

    If we are not willing to take the time to what it takes to change things then we deserve what we get. We are not suggesting taking action to save a few minutes but a lifetime of minutes. I am willing to take the time to change things and I hope that I am not the only one who feels that way. If we are not willing to fight for our rights what is the point of having handicapped parking in the first place. I remember when they tried to have parking spaces free for pregnant women and women with small children. They did not last very long. The same thing will happen if we do not do something about the matter of people who park illegally in handicapped parking spaces. Do we honor our own handicapped rules? How many handicapped people have parked in a van access only handicapped parking? I don't know the answer to that one because I lost my car ages ago but it is a fair question.

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  • Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

    Some people do need, it but getting a handicap permit is a joke. 99% of the people I see using the spots have no issue walking the Mall 10 times. If you have that much pain walking then a mall or very large store is going to kill you. My Grandmother is 92 and refuses to use her permit. Handicap spots should be for the truly handicapped and not those that say ouch because they never exercise...your fat butt needs to walk the extra 10 feet.

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  • Re: Re: ABOUT HANDICAPPED PARKING

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    The police who do not cite people for parking in a handicapped parking spot are in most cases DOING THEIR JOBS. They are there to patrol and enforce the laws on the PUBLIC ROADWAYS. They are not parking policy enforcement for private businesses. Unless the parking lot is turned over to the town - which few towns will accept because they then get to pay to fix potholes, restripe, remove snow, etc - it is PRIVATE PROPERTY and the signs are "suggestions only". It is not the police departments job to enforce parking POLICIES (not laws) on private property. As for the person who claims that she blocks people with her vehicle etc - if you were to do that to me, you would be shot and I would NOT be charged. Unless you are a SWORN PEACE OFFICER, detaining ANYONE for anything other than an OBSERVED FELONY is kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment. People should learn about the supposed powers of "citizens arrest" - they do NOT extend to violations or misdemeanors. By "blocking" and detaining them you are committing a felony and as such the use of force, including deadly force is authorized. Incidentally - you know what annoys me - all the worthless "handicapped" people who take those spaces, then go in to spend MY TAX DOLLARS from their disability check.... I always see handicapped people parking in those spaces, then going to the beach - loaded down with coolers, fishing poles, barbecue grills, volleyballs, volleyball nets , scuba gear, sun tents, etc... Amazing how these handicapped people are able to carry a load to the beach that would break the back of the average SEAL team??? Then again when the lazy and worthless don't have to work they have lots of energy to play I suppose. if I had my way- most of these "disabled" people would be euthanized so they don't need to use the spaces. AMAZING how someone who has been "disabled since 1982" seems to be able bodied enough to provoke confrontations with other people - but too disabled to earn her own keep or to walk / roll from another parking space.
    Seriously? You'd shoot somebody because they blocked you in? Maybe they would claim they were lawfully detaining you because you were illegally parked.
    People with attitudes like yours are what scares the rest of us about loose gun laws. If this is your mentality, you shouldn't own a gun and definitely should not have a CCW. Somebody blocking you in a parking space is not a threat to your life so self-defense would not be an issue.

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    Lets try reading for comprehension... As I clearly stated - so called powers of citizen's arrest DO NOT extend to violations or misdemeanors. Non Peace Officer arrest power applies ONLY to an OBSERVED FELONY. Thus - a private citizen detaining someone against their will because of a parking violation is committing the offense of KIDNAPPING which is a third degree felony. Texas law holds that using, or threatening to use, a motor vehicle in the comission of an offense constitutes "a deadly weapon" thus making it aggravated kidnapping. It also holds that if there are two or more persons being held it is aggravated kidnapping. It ALSO holds that if one or more of the victims is being prevented from performing a political or governmental function - like being a volunteer firefighter or EMS worker - the offense becomes AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING which is a FIRST DEGREE FELONY.

    So to answer your question YES, I would shoot someone who attempted to unlawfully detain me as is my right under Texas law. Penal Code section 9.32 specifically lists: "(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery." as a justification for shooting someone.

    A NON Law Enforcement Officer detaining someone actually creates SEVERAL justifications under Texas law for shooting them. I already covered aggravated kidnapping. They also block your ability to retreat. If they are arguing with you threats are probably being exchanged. Furthermore 9.42 grants me the right to use deadly force to protect PROPERTY. "A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property" Such as MY CAR.

    The law is VERY specific - per 14.01 unless someone is a SWORN PEACE OFFICER - they can only detain someone for a FELONY they personally observed. It doesnt matter if they would claim they were "detaining you for being illegally parked". First of all if they have two bullets in their forehead they wont claim anything because they are dead. LOL But, assuming they did claim to be "detaining me for being illegally parked" - thats an ADMISSION OF GUILT because illegal parking is NOT a felony. (Its not even a misdemeanor) It is thus NOT an arrestable offense, and detaining someone for it is KIDNAPPING.

    So - dont worry about whether or not "people like me" should have a gun. Worry about people who are too ignorant to know the law, running off as half cocked vigilantes committing felonies against those of us who DO own guns and who are aware of when we may LAWFULLY use them. The idea that you need to be reacting to a threat to your life is a potentially fatal error. It doesnt have to be a threat to my life.It can be any of the named offenses, in defense of my person, in defense of my property, in defense of the person or proprety of a third person, in defense of the rights or liberties of myself or another etc...

    Case in point - Joe Horn in Pasadena Texas saw two men committing a burgulary at his neighbors home. He called 911, and was on the phone with the dispatcher when he saw them leaving, He told the dispatcher "They are leaving Ill go kill them for ya" , put the phone down, went out, and fatally shot two men on his neighbors front lawn. HE COMMITTED NO CRIME because the law here in Texas specifically allows you to use deadly force: (9.42)  (A)  to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime;  or (B)  to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property;

    Don't be "scared" of "loose gun laws" just DONT ATTEMPT TO DETAIN ANYONE FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN A FELONY YOU HAVE PERSONALLY OBSERVED UNLESS YOU ARE A SWORN LEO OR YOU RUN THE VERY REAL RISK OF BEING JUSTIFIABLY SHOT.

     Frankly - even if you don't get shot or beaten into something resembling a wet prune, or run over with the car your blocking, youll still end up in jail when the cops get there... The cops don't like troublemakers. They are quite likely to "tune you up" if you escalate a private property parking lot infraction that wasnt even their problem in the first place into an aggravated kidnapping, unlawful restraint, terroristic threats, disturbing of the peace, etc.... Cops like NICE QUIET DRAMA FREE DAYS. They despise mouthy drama queens, and people who try to do their job.

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