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  • Mr. EAR-ONS Lives/Lived In IRVINE, Orange County, California

    Janelle Cruz worked as a cashier at Bullwinkle's Restaurant, which was located at 14100 Culver Drive in Irvine (off the I-5 on-ramp).

    Let's assume, for a moment, that the EAR-ONS first encountered Cruz at Bullwinkle's while patronizing the restaurant, perhaps with his family.  This assumption is not necessary to consider the following, but it makes it more compelling.

    The linear (not walking or driving) distance from Bullwinkle's restauant to the Cruz residence is 1.28 miles.   The linear distance from the Cruz residence to the Witthuhn residence is... 1.28 miles.  The linear distance of Bullwinkle's to the Witthuhn residence is 1.11 miles.

    The three points are almost equidistant, forming an almost perfect equilateral triangle.

    Did the EAR-ONS reside somewhere within that triangle?

                       - Mr. SpeakelOfEngrish

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    This is one of the most important posts on this message board in recent times.

    To get a better image of this triangulation, visit the map that Mr. Akwilks posted
    at this link:

    http://community.aetv.com/_Janelle-Cruz-Workplace-to-Cruz-Home-to-Witthuhn-Homejpg/photo/10774156/119137.html?enlarge=true

    Now.....

    What is so special about this triangulation?

    What makes it different from the other Original Night Stalker crimes...  some of which
    were close together?

    I think the answer to this question has to do with that strange 5 year gap.

    Mr. EAR-ONS killed Ms. Manuella Witthuhn in IRVINE on February 5, 1981...   then
    followed it up with the Sanchez/Domingo murder over in Goleta on July 27, 1981....

    And then....

    He took the next 5 years off.... 

    As everyone knows, after 5 years he killed in IRVINE again...   and then back into
    hibernation he went.

    I feel Ms. Janelle Cruz's murder....  where she lived.....  where she worked.....  and
    Ms. Witthuhn's murder and place of residence.....    all these elements hold the
    key to getting as close as anyone can ever hope to get to Mr. EAR-ONS.

    The Cruz/Bullwinkle Restaurant/Witthuhn Connection has 3 very special elements
    that represent THE LAST KNOWN EXISTENCE - in terms of crimes, anyway - of
    Mr. EAR-ONS.... 

    These 2 murders have a strange anomalous quality to them....  a quality that
    would not have caught my attention if Mr. EAR-ONS had not decided to kill
    there after 5 years.

    If he had struck in Goleta in 1986 and ended it there, I'd have thought Goleta was
    the place to look.... 

    The fact that he chose to kill Ms. Cruz in IRVINE....  and chose her after those 5
    years had elapsed tells me that there is something about IRVINE....   something
    different from all that came before it.

    I think Mr. EAR-ONS was living in very very very very very very
    close proximity to Ms. Cruz and, consequently, also very near to
    Ms. Witthuhn.

    I repeat, IRVINE would NOT stick out in my mind if Mr. EAR-ONS hadn't waited
    5 years to strike there again.

    Why there after 5 years?  Why IRVINE?  Why not Dana Point again?  Why not Goleta?

    What is so special about IRVINE?????

    Perhaps after July 27, 1981....  his raping and murdering became sidelined by
    something to do with employment, family, disability, or a combination of some
    of those things.

    As other posters mentioned....  Ms. Cruz's murder was probably spurred on by
    some "stressor"....  something in Mr. EAR-ONS life triggered him and compelled
    him to do "it" one more time.....

    Let's say that's true... don't know if it is, obviously, but let's say it is for the sake
    of this post....

    What if after 5 years, Mr. EAR-ONS became a little rusty with his old methods of
    surveillance...  following a potential victim....  the time and dedication it would
    take to ascertain how many other people lived in the potential victim's house....
    what their schedules were, etc., etc.

    What if those 5 years made him a bit uncoordinated?

    Well, how about this........

    Maybe Ms. Janelle Cruz was chosen because she was an "easy" target, i.e., she
    lived close enough so that he didn't have to travel a long distance....  she lived
    right in Mr. EAR-ONS backyard, so to speak.

    Is it possible that Mr. EAR-ONS didn't live in IRVINE and was merely passing
    through on some business back in 1986 and decided to do another a murder for
    old time's sake?

    I don't know....  I don't think so.....   the time it would take him to familiarize himself
    with Ms. Cruz's residence and also with how many people were living in the house
    and whatever other important information he would need in order to know he could
    strike and get away with it makes me think he had a permanent residence in
    IRVINE....  or was in IRVINE in 1986 for a prolonged period of time even though
    he wasn't living there...  although, I don't know if I believe that....

    Mr. EAR-ONS may have moved a long time ago or may still be IRVINE.....  but I
    think that Mr. EAR-ONS was definitely living in IRVINE sometime between
    1981 - 1986.

    A geographic profile should be commissioned based on Mr. SpeakelOfEngrish's
    triangulation of -

    1)  Ms. Janelle Cruz's Residence

    2)  Bullwinkle Restaurant

    3)  Ms. Manuella Witthuhn's Residence.

    There is something "telling" about these 2 crime scenes and that restaurant.

    Has anyone focused any kind of intense research in IRVINE, specifically around
    this triangulated area?

    Furthermore, has anyone found any suspect(s) who lived in Carmichael or
    Citrus Heights between 1976 - 1978 and then moved to IRVINE and remained
    there between 1981 - 1986?

    Nothing in this post is written in stone, of course....  but just something to think
    about....  perhaps others have already thought about it and have come up with
    some interesting suspects.

    Thank you.

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  • Re: Mr. EAR-ONS Lives/Lived In IRVINE, Orange County, California

    I personally think It doesn't necessarily mean anything that he committed the last crime in Irvine. He might have picked someone there to murder because it was 100 miles from his home and he was familiar with Irvine- having stalked there before. Southern California has many cities and communities close to each other.

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  • EAR in IRVINE

    I agree with you Aaron. I believe that EAR lived in the Irvine area probably between 1981-1986, after that who knows? I think one of the main clues that EAR lived in Irvine was both killings in 1981 and 1986 were single homicides. EAR had a habit of attacking couples and he knew that LE knew that as well. The murder/rape home invasion of a couple is extremely rare and would create a lot of undue attention from other out of county agencies (an MO Sacramento or Contra Costa County might be looking for..However, the homicide and or rape of a single woman is far more common. I think that one of the reasons for the lack of attacking couples was another way to throw off the police. EAR did not want to anyway come on the radar of any LE agency that might try to link crimes. Goleta had couples attacks, Dana Point couples attacs and Verntura County had couples attacked, but not Irvine? Coincidence, I dont think so.

  • Re: Re: Mr. EAR-ONS Lives/Lived In IRVINE, Orange County, California

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    I personally think It doesn't necessarily mean anything that he committed the last crime in Irvine. He might have picked someone there to murder because it was 100 miles from his home and he was familiar with Irvine- having stalked there before. Southern California has many cities and communities close to each other.
    Hello, Mr. Watch, sir.

    I have an extreme amount of sympathy for your point of view, sir.

    I don't know if I can be that quick to be dismissive, though.

    I mean, I know it's just a theory... but if one is to dismiss this theory... then
    anything can be dismissed before any adequate research can be done.

    How can anyone know the truth or falsity of a thing without first looking into it?

    I am cynical, too, Mr. Watch.

    You are right... there are many cities and communities in Southern California.... but
    these victims and where they lived.... just MAY mean something.... I mean, I know
    it might not mean nothing... I'll give you that, sir.

    But I feel there is a reason Mr. EAR-ONS chose the victims he chose.

    His victims were apart of a selection and design known only to him.

    If we can train ourselves to recognize patterns and motifs.... perhaps the logic
    behind that selection and design will come to the fore....

    Unfortunately, this is as good as it gets.

    I wish there was more to go on......

    Aaron

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  • Locating EAR

    Someone on this Board needs to figure out how we research who lived in the Irvine neighborhood around the time of the Cruz murder. We need to focus on this if we are to get anywhere.

  • Re: Mr. EAR-ONS Lives/Lived In IRVINE, Orange County, California

    Aaron, I agree with you completely ... Except that I think sometimes we limit ourselves to a narrative that we think provides a solution to things we do not understand. My main point is that while many have the opinion that he lived where the first crime happened or he lived where the last crime happened, it is just conjecture. We don't know, so let's not exclude other possibilities. You may very well be right. I just think we armchair detectives would not want to limit our possibilities. That is all Mr. Aaron.

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  • Property Records are Public Records


    To chain back the title records you :
    1. take the address you're interested in to the county tax record office (usually in courthouse)
    2. they will give you the name of the current owner (party paying the property tax)
    3. enter this name into vendor (seller) vendee (buyer) records going successive back to the date of your interest. Vendor/Vendee records will be in the courthouse near the tax assessor's office.
    ..............................................
    Problems with this:
    Time consuming, there are hundreds of homes in this area
    House may not belong to the EAR. [for example the house I live in now was purchased by my husband in 2009. My name is not mentioned in the public records.]
    Of course the EAR may have been staying, briefly, with the home owner of record for time periods in 1981 and 86. EAR may have worked in a business around the equilateral triangle area and commuted quite a distance to get there. The possibilities go on and on.

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  • Re: Mr. EAR-ONS Lives/Lived In IRVINE, Orange County, California

    This is the triangle of which Aaron speaks, I think it was first noted by SOE.

    Janelle Cruz Workplace to Cruz Home to Witthuhn Home.jpg

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  • Re: Mr. EAR-ONS Lives/Lived In IRVINE, Orange County, California

    Mr. Aaron,
    I do think you are absolutely correct on the account that he chose his victims less than randomly ( especially the murder victims).'I think he chose women that resembled a certain ideal of his, perhaps a girlfriend that broke up with him or something. The other thing that has been brought to attention before is that these women ( in the later part of earons's murdering career) represented an ideal of physical characteristics as well as having success in their ambitions and drives to the point that many had articles ( including Ms. Janelle) in the newspaper about their achievements.

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  • What about a telephone Book??

    The time period we need to focus on is pre-internet. Telephone books were still used in the 1980's. The White Pages I believe listed residential names and addresses. Is there anyway maybe at a local library, community center, church anything that might have old telephone books lying around. Maybe that information in cached some where by the telephone book company??

  • more useful than the phone book

    may be 'cross directories.' [I think that's what they were called]
    At any rate these books have names, phone#, addresses listed categorically.
    So successive addresses, say 34 Columbus..33 Columbus, would be listed with names and phone#s following.
    I recall my father using one of these in the early 90s, inviting our neighbors to a party.
    Of course phone#s could be 'unlisted', so no name would be available for that address.

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  • Mr. Watch

    Hello, Mr. Watch, sir.

    When it comes to the tantalizing nature of this case and the elusivity of Mr.
    EAR-ONS, never in a million would I ever be so bold as to say DEFINITIVELY
    that Mr. EAR-ONS lived here or there or what have you.

    I know that sounds like a contradiction given the nature of my above
    post...  but I try to be as confident in proposing a theory while paradoxically
    admitting at the end of the day that....  I don't know if anything I propose
    or theorize will be correct, you know what I mean, sir?

    I ended my post by saying nothing I said in my theory is set in stone...  all
    I am trying to do with my IRVINE POST is do exactly what you said, Mr.
    Watch...  and that is to consider a possibility.

    The problem with my above post is it sounds like I am saying everything in it
    is factual...  sorry to anyone who reads it that way...  my enthusiasm
    sometimes gets the better of me is all.  But anyway, my above post is really
    just one thing and nothing more - a consideration of a possibility among
    a multitude of other possibilities.

    This case is so frustrating for so many people and for so many reasons that
    when one theory is presented, I can see how desperate other people can be
    to be eager to include the other 10,000 other theories....  I feel that desperation
    myself....  and, yes, at the end of the day everything I stated in my above post
    may be 100% dead wrong.  I'll be the first to admit that - and gladly.  It's
    good to be told that there are other ways of looking at things...  it opens
    up the doors of perception...

    I apologize to all if my above post came off sounding like the Gospel Truth. 
    I was merely stating a theory with a lot of confidence behind it that can be
    mistaken for fact...  again, nothing I said in my above post is fact - ALL OF
    IT IS CONJECTURE.

    For future reference, if it should occur that I make another post that comes
    off sounding like I am immovable in my theory, I apologize in advance...  
    I actually am in favor of including and talking about any and all other
    possibilities about Mr. EAR-ONS....  the catch-22 is when you present one
    theory you'll have numerous other posters reminding you of other
    theories....  which is a good thing....   because all of those theories
    are just as valid as anything else.

    In any case, I just want you to know, Mr. Watch, that I am not a snob to
    other theories or anything....  as a matter of fact....   if you stop and think
    about it....  Mr. Akwilks and Mr. SpeakelOfEngrish kind of set the foundation
    for 99.9% of what I wrote....  all I did was open it up to a new thread....

    Anyway...  I'm going to try to go back in time...  look at whatever public
    records I can look at...  I am going to look for all persons with the following
    profile:


    - resided in IRVINE between 1981 - 1986...  may still reside there

    - WHITE MALE

    - 28 - 35 years old in 1981

    - Brown hair or Blonde hair

    - Hazel Eyes or Blue Eyes

    - size 9 shoes

    - known to be athletic, maybe possessing a jogger's physique

    - owned a German Shepherd

    - ant-social, yet courteous....  introverted, yet always willing to lend a
      helping hand


    By the way...  I don't know how the hell I am going to find out some of these
    particulars, but whatever...  gotta try.....

    And that's it.

    Aaron

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  • You Covet What You See.... Everyday(?)

    Posted By: watch
    Mr. Aaron,
    I do think you are absolutely correct on the account that he chose his victims less than randomly ( especially the murder victims).'I think he chose women that resembled a certain ideal of his, perhaps a girlfriend that broke up with him or something. The other thing that has been brought to attention before is that these women ( in the later part of earons's murdering career) represented an ideal of physical characteristics as well as having success in their ambitions and drives to the point that many had articles ( including Ms. Janelle) in the newspaper about their achievements.
    Another reason for the whole "Mr. EAR-ONS lives/lived in IRVINE" Theory is that
    I have recently been kind of obsessed with this whole thing involving coveting what
    you see.... and coveting it enough BECAUSE you see it everyday... or.... if not
    everyday.... enough that you see it A LOT, you know what I mean?

    How do you begin to covet? You begin to covet what you see... because what
    you see.... is in close proximity for you to see.... maybe on a daily
    basis.... maybe once a week.... perhaps even once or twice a month...

    Aaron

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    I definitely agree with speakel, aaron, and conquistador and it is worth looking into.
    while it may seem too obvious that he lived in irvine or too simple, is it really? would it have been then? before dna? before le had linked the crimes? i am sure le interviewed people in the neighborhood but what if ear just didn't fit their profile (he could have been as old as 35 at this point, maybe married, job). if they knew they were looking for a serial killer would that have changed who they suspected? I'd love to know who else they looked at for that homicide besides the bf and what their impressions of the crime were. interesting thing i read about the cruz homicide in the florida profile of ear: her wrists showed signs of being bound but not her ankles. did he just not feel he needed to bind her ankles or was he deliberately leaving that out so it looked different to investigators? just thinking out loud here...

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  • Re: Property Records are Public Records

    Posted By: Breccia

    To chain back the title records you :
    1. take the address you're interested in to the county tax record office (usually in courthouse)
    2. they will give you the name of the current owner (party paying the property tax)
    3. enter this name into vendor (seller) vendee (buyer) records going successive back to the date of your interest. Vendor/Vendee records will be in the courthouse near the tax assessor's office.
    ..............................................
    Problems with this:
    Time consuming, there are hundreds of homes in this area
    House may not belong to the EAR. [for example the house I live in now was purchased by my husband in 2009. My name is not mentioned in the public records.]
    Of course the EAR may have been staying, briefly, with the home owner of record for time periods in 1981 and 86. EAR may have worked in a business around the equilateral triangle area and commuted quite a distance to get there. The possibilities go on and on.

    Hello, Ms. Breccia, ma'am.

    Thank you for your wonderful post, Ms. Breccia.

    Looking at properties going all the way back from 1981 - 1986.... yes, that's going
    to be very, very nerve-wracking.

    I wish Mr. Kim Rossmo or Ms. Pat Brown would come and look at the triangulation
    on Mr. Akwilks map and then make a more detailed geographic profile based on
    this information.

    Mr. Rossmo has a formula for geographic profiling... I tried looking at it, but it
    gave me a headache. Here's the link to his formula:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rossmo's_formula

    And another thing.... what if Mr. EAR-ONS was living in an apartment in IRVINE?

    Perhaps we should try to find apartment complexes that allowed tenants to
    have dogs.... we'd be concentrating on apartment complexes between 1981 - 1986.

    Finding apartment complexes that fit this criteria would be no less tedious than
    the houses angle... but someone somewhere between 1981 - 1986 has got to
    remember an anti-social fella who always went jogging with his German Shepherd
    dog in IRVINE.

    Aaron

    P.S.

    Mr. Akwilks, sir, thank you for posting that map. It is my humble opinion
    that the answer to this case is embedded in that map, a key to unlocking this
    whole thing... I don't know what that answer is yet... more research for the
    time being.....

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  • Mr. Rossmo's Link

    Sorry, but it appears the Kim Rossmo link does not work... if anyone is interested
    in Mr. Rossmo's Formula for Geographic Profiling, just go to Google, type in
    GEOGRAPHIC PROFILING... go to Wikipedia.... scroll to the bottom... look
    under the SEE ALSO section where it will say ROSSMO'S FORMULA... click
    that link and everything should be just fine.

    Thank you.

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  • Witthuhn

    And you can't brush aside the fact that he left the T.V. against the fence in the witthuhn crime.
    Went farther out of his way to misdirect there that any other crime scene.

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  • SACRAMENTO vs. all other jurisdictions

    The only location I feel certain that EAR resided in is Sacramento. If you cannot put him is Sacramento I have a hard time looking at him seriously. He may or may not of resided in some of the other jurisdictions. But there is no doubt he was in Sacramento. Someone has a suspect that they are trying to fit in Sac. but he was never here. You cannot make a serious case against a POI if he was never here. I hope you understand the gist of this post..g

  • PS

    The greater Sacramento area includes Carmichael, Citrus Heights, Fair Oaks, Orangevale, Rancho Cordova, and a variety of others. g

  • RE: Living in Sac

    What if they never obtained a license, never applied for utilities, and/or lived with someone? I actually lived in a city for almost a year that never shows up on any internet search engine -- because of all those reasons.

    Not that I am disagreeing with you that he PROBABLY did live in Sac, as well as Irvine.  Proving it however --- well, there's the rub...

    Smile

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  • The Triangle Angle

    I think some very interesting points have been brought up.

    However, I'm not too sold on the triangle angle yet.  This is because a lot of discussion has been made about Bullwinkle's. What's the big deal with Bullwinkles anyway? I know that Janelle worked there, but besides that, why is it significant? I'm not saying that ONS didn't frequent there, I'm just saying that other points in the triangle could be plotted in Irvine. For instance, didn't Manuela Witthuhn work at a bank? Where is the point for that on the map? Didn't Patrice Harrington work at a hospital in Irvine? Where is the point for that on the map? Didn't Keith Harrington attend UC Irvine? Where is the point for that? How about the pool that Janelle was at where a previous poster mentioned that he saw her talking to the Kitten Man.  Do you see where I am going with this? I'm not saying that the triangle angle is not interesting, I'm just saying that the shape can be manipulated based on different Irvine locations. I just don't see any real significance with Bullwinkle's yet and I am wondering if I'm missing something. Besides, it does seem a little cliche that ONS, whether deliberately or accidently, would commit crimes within a triangle and seems more fitting in a Hollywood movie plot ("The Triangle Killer").

    My question for a long time has been why ONS traveled all the way back to Goleta in July of 1981? I thought Conquistador offered great insight on this:

    "I think one of the main clues that EAR lived in Irvine was both killings in 1981 and 1986 were single homicides. EAR had a habit of attacking couples and he knew that LE knew that as well. The murder/rape home invasion of a couple is extremely rare and would create a lot of undue attention from other out of county agencies (an MO Sacramento or Contra Costa County might be looking for..However, the homicide and or rape of a single woman is far more common. I think that one of the reasons for the lack of attacking couples was another way to throw off the police. EAR did not want to anyway come on the radar of any LE agency that might try to link crimes. Goleta had couples attacks, Dana Point couples attacs and Verntura County had couples attacked, but not Irvine? Coincidence, I dont think so."

    I don't think so either. 

    As far as the TV in the Witthuhn case being up against the fence, many have said that this was signs of ONS staging the crime scene. This could be the case, but I don't understand on why would he try and make it look like a burglary by removing the tv, when it was easily spotted in the backyard? I feel that the TV served more of a practical purpose by allowing ONS to use it stand up on in order to boost himself over the fence.

    I do feel that ONS lived and possibly still lives in Irvine. I'm just not sure about the triangle yet, but it is an angle worth looking into (are you all getting tired of my puns yet?). I think that all the above plots I mentioned should be posted on a map - this might give us a more detailed picture and one odd shape at that.

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